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Are there people in your life that you try so hard to get along with, but you somehow always leave the interaction feeling disheartened, sad, angry, or demeaned? Are there people you dread running into or spending time with because there's just something about them that strips you of your power, either provoking you into acting "crazy" (when you normally are quite a sane, nice-to-be-around person) or somehow always managing to make you give up something that's important to your well-being?

One of my coaching clients shared with me the experience of a person she is close to. He makes little digs all the time during conversation, despite claiming to be a supportive and loving friend. Whenever she leaves an encounter, my client feels a hollow ache of "sadness and hopelessness" that lasts into the next day. After spending time with this person she'll often explode in the car on the way home, and her boyfriend looks at her like she's nuts. She's not—but the unhealthy nature of the conversation (as poisoned by her "friend") is.

The art of understanding and handling the unreasonable person is probably the biggest lesson I've learned in the last few years, provoked by some interpersonal and professional crises I experienced that I had originally thought were my fault. I was very fortunate to find an amazing relationship coach who has a background in psychology and unique expertise in personality disorders. She helped me to see that I was usually dealing with disordered individuals, and that I was making classic mistakes in trying to make the relationships work.

As I'm a medical doctor with some training in psychiatry, understanding that I was dealing with individuals with a bona fide personality disorder was a huge "a-ha" moment. The thing is, there might be a clear list of characteristics describing someone with borderline, antisocial or narcissistic PD in the DSM (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders). But when you're dealing with one of these people, it often won't become (diagnosably) apparent until you spend a lot of time with them. And even then, if you're really emotionally ensnarled you might not be able to spot it on your own.

Interacting with them might just make you feel really bad about yourself, or they may say and do things that don't sit quite right with you. Often, they have such an otherwise charming way about them that they find a way to make you laugh afterwards, or do something nice that makes you confused about "which one" is the real person. Most people will choose to focus on the good stuff and downplay the pathological, often at their peril.

A difficult person in your life might not have a full-blown personality disorder; they may just have related traits that express themselves from time to time. It still takes a toll on your self-esteem and well-being to be around them. For the purposes of this article, here's a short list of the types of people I would lump into the "unreasonable":

* Those you can't have a reasonable conversation with; they somehow twist your words or totally confuse you and then tell you that you're the one who doesn't know how to communicate

* People who make subtly or overtly demeaning comments or say cutting things to you disguised as a "joke"

* Those that don't respect boundaries and seem to enjoy stepping all over one after you've placed it

* The types that aren't willing to consider your point of view or listen to your side of things (or just stare at you blankly, or laugh, or explode, when you try to explain "how you feel")

* Bullies

* Verbal or emotional abusers (these can also range from subtle to overt)

* Manipulators

* Liars

* People who leave you feeling bad, sad, shaky or feeling sick in the pit of your stomach *

"Crazymakers," a.k.a. people who provoke you into acting crazy or unbalanced (and love making you feel like there's something wrong with you when you do), when your behaviour across the rest of your life is proof that you're not

* The excessively charming who are too good to be true and have an ulterior motive

You know who I mean.

Now, here are the things I've learned about how to handle them and minimize the damage to yourself, your days, your sanity and your life:

1) Minimize time with them

Keep your interactions as short as possible. Minimizing your exposure to pathology goes a long, long way.

2) Keep it logical

I'm a very verbal, heart-focused person, so I would always try to connect with and reason with these types (and pretty much anyone else) from an emotional or empathic perspective. You know, those "when you do X it makes me feel Y" communication tactics we're taught in relationship books. This type of heart-centered communication only works with reasonable people who care. Unreasonable people usually don't care, and their response (or lack of it) will often only make you more upset. Keep communications fact-based, using minimal details.

3) Don't drink around them

Though it's tempting to knock back a glass of wine or two when you're around people like this, it will only make you more emotionally vulnerable and more likely to do or say something useless that will either make you look bad, make you feel bad, or make you more of a target.

4) Focus on them in conversation

A way to avoid being the target of demeaning comments, manipulation or having your words twisted is to say as little as possible. Volunteer minimal information and get them talking about themselves (if you have to be around them or talk to them, that is)—they are a far safer conversation subject than you are.

5) Give up the dream that they will one day be the person you wish they'd be

I see this in coaching clients all the time and in myself, too. There are people in our lives who have moments where they seem to be the parent/partner/spouse/friend (insert whatever's appropriate) you've always felt they could be, yet they ultimately always end up hurting or disappointing us significantly. Amazingly, we fall for it and get our hopes up again the next time they treat us nicely or seem to have turned a new leaf. Giving up the hope and fully accepting this person for who they really are can be an unbelievable relief after what is sometimes a lifetime of wishing.

6) Stay away from topics that get you into trouble

Before going into an interaction with a difficult person, review in your mind the topics that invite attack and be proactive about avoiding them. For example, if your in-laws always make cracks about your choice of career, answer neutrally and change the subject immediately (see #4) if they ask you how work is going.

7) Don't try to get them to see your point of view

Don't try to explain yourself or try to get them to understand you and empathize with your perspective. They won't, and you'll just feel worse for trying.

8) Create a distraction

If you absolutely have to spend time with someone who typically upsets you, try to be around them in circumstances that offer some sort of distraction. Focus on playing with a pet if there's one in the vicinity, have the interaction be based around some kind of recreational activity or entertainment, or offer to help in a way that takes you out of the main ring of the Coliseum (e.g. offering to chop vegetables in the kitchen before a family dinner). If you can get them to do something that absorbs their attention (taking it off you), even better.

As I mentioned to a client today, if you master these skills and manage to conduct these interactions while being civil and even friendly, you might manage to save the relationship. Not that you would necessarily want to, but in some cases if the person is a family member, boss, or some other key fixture in your life who you can't cut out of your life, these tactics may prove to be lifesavers. They certainly have been for me!

And one more tip: research shows that praying for people who upset or anger you has positive emotional benefits for you personally, reducing your own anger and upset. Even though it may be the last thing you feel like doing, you might be surprised by the results! At the very least, you will feel better.

Is there anyone in your life who is like this? What do you find most challenging about your interactions with them? Are there ways that you've discovered or created that help you manage the situation? I'd love for you to share your experiences with me in the comment section below (and feel free to comment anonymously!)

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Comments (11)
21-01-2012 18:33
Amen. Beautiful post.
Written by anonymous
21-01-2012 21:37
All true, and all the more interesting to put into practice when you realize the unreasonable people are your parents/other family members.
Written by Anonymous
24-01-2012 19:37
When person like this confronts you with a ridiculous or hurtful statement or question, simply look at them incredulously and remark,"Why would you say that?"  
Written by anonymous
24-01-2012 19:38
Great Post!! I have been trying to deal with my (very frustrating mother) almost my entire life - so now I minimize my time with her and minimal info about my life (not that she ever asks!) Reasoning with her, or trying to let her know how I feel clearly doesn't work, and I realize now that she will never change - therefore, I am the one who has to.
Written by Ann
24-01-2012 19:38
The tips are aimed to create a safe distance from the "unreasonable people", but what if the unreasonable people are the parents who are simply well-intentioned but are unreasonable or difficult to be around? I find it a difficult challenge to be loving towards the "unreasonable parents" and yet shielding myself from getting hurt.
Written by Mandy
24-01-2012 19:37
Good practical -- and simple -- advice which I plan to employ right away!
Written by Anon
24-01-2012 19:34
Better off realizing that THEY are the crazy ones, not you! :)
Written by Marci Horton
24-01-2012 19:44
response to Mandy
Hi Mandy, thanks for your comment and I agree, it's very difficult when someone is a close family member, unfortunately this is quite often the case. 
 
I would still advise you to use these strategies as they work for anyone who is like this - minimize length of time spent with them, focus on talking about their lives, volunteer minimal personal info, don't expect them to change, don't go looking for their empathy or compassion or approval (if they haven't given it before, they're not going to start now), find a task when you're with them such as helping set the table, chopping vegetables, whatever keeps you from having to sit face to face...this will actually decrease the probability that conflict or upset or offense will occur, making the relationship more harmonious (or as harmonious as possible anyway, sigh) 
Hope that helped! 
Susan
Written by Dr. Susan Biali
30-01-2012 15:24
Don't Try to Reason with Unreasonable Pe
I needed these tips for such a long time. Thank you Dr. Susan! I am married to an alcoholic, who makes me feel crazy ever day. After 17 years I decided to make a life for myself how ever still remain in the same home. These tips will be valuable as I learn to remain calm and sane. I ordered 2 of my friends your book. They are both Doctors and they just came back from Cuba where they took up Salsa. Awesome. Love you Jodie 
P.S. I just am ready to fire some Pet Urns. I promised to send you one. Please tell me the weight and your lovely Dog's name again.  
 
My web site pawsatrest.net will be up in 2 weeks at the latest. Finally..
Written by Jodie
30-01-2012 15:26
To Jodie
It's so good to hear from you Jodie, thanks for commenting! I will send you an email : )
Written by Dr. Susan Biali
07-02-2012 23:44
Founder/ CEO FairCareMD.com
Great post Dr. Biali, It reminds me of the line "when you argue with a crazy person, no one can tell which of you is the crazy one." I can now add the addendum: "Especially you." (meaning yourself or oneself.)  
 
Looking forward to meeting you next week in New York.  
 
Thanks.
Written by Alex Fair

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